[Heber C. Kimball marriage]
Wife #12, Ellen Sanders (Aagaat Ysteinsdatter Bakka), 1823-1871; 5 children, including Rosalia Kimball (Williams Gordon Edwards) and Jedediah Heber.
[His diary for that day is charactistic of others who enter into plural marriage, with no explicit reference to the marriage: "5 To [on] the 5 I took steam boat fore Quincy in company with my wife, Elder Babbit and wife. Crost over to Mont Rose [Montrose, Iowa], and went bord of St. Croix."]
[Hatch, Charles M. and Compton, Todd M. editors, 'A Widow's Tale: 1884-1896 Diary of Helen Mar Kimball Whitney' p. 37]
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Several curious tidbits that happened on this day in Mormon History
190 years ago today - Nov 5, 1834
Wilford Woodruff: Ordained priest 5 November 1834.
[Cook, Lyndon W., The Revelations of the Prophet Joseph Smith: A Historical and Biographical Commentary of the Doctrine and Covenants, Seventy's Mission Bookstore, Provo UT, 1985, http://amzn.to/RevelationsofJosephSmith]
[Cook, Lyndon W., The Revelations of the Prophet Joseph Smith: A Historical and Biographical Commentary of the Doctrine and Covenants, Seventy's Mission Bookstore, Provo UT, 1985, http://amzn.to/RevelationsofJosephSmith]
90 years ago today - Nov 4, 1934
[Heber J. Grant]
I confess I cannot make up my mind to appoint the young son of Hyrum G. Smith to become our Presiding Patriarch. I think there is a great deal of comment among the people as to why we cannot decide on a man to fill this position. I have read again what the brethren of the Twelve say in their report on the matter, but my spirit is not free regarding Hyrum G. Smith's son. I really feel in my heart that he is not the right man. I am sure if he were that the Lord would give me the impression in his favor. The impression to me every time that I think of it is that he hardly fills the bill'in fact does not anywhere near do so'and when I ask myself the question, 'Shall I recommend him; we might just as well call him now as wait for the next conference,' the impression to me is, no.
The impression to choose Willard Smith, my son-in-law, so far as his great ability is concerned, his humility, his knowledge, his force of character, is yes, every time I think of it. But on the other hand I am perfectly willing to keep him where he is, because he is working for a great bank. ... and the fact that he is my son-in-law might handicap him if he were called to be the Presiding Patriarch.
Then I go to President Smith's family, and his grandson [i.e., Joseph F. Smith], the son of Hyrum M., is an outstanding young man, a splendid man, very much like his father, the same forceful character as his grandfather, inclined to be a little harsh in his talk sometimes ...
I do feel almost impressed that when you come home next time we must come to a decision about the Presiding Patriarch, the three of us, and tell the quorum of the Twelve what to do. If we finally decide, after prayer and fasting, to appoint Hyrum G. Smith's boy, it will be all well and good, but if not, and we do not decide on someone else instead, in that case I am going to wait until another conference.
[Heber J. Grant, Letter to J. Reuben Clark, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
I confess I cannot make up my mind to appoint the young son of Hyrum G. Smith to become our Presiding Patriarch. I think there is a great deal of comment among the people as to why we cannot decide on a man to fill this position. I have read again what the brethren of the Twelve say in their report on the matter, but my spirit is not free regarding Hyrum G. Smith's son. I really feel in my heart that he is not the right man. I am sure if he were that the Lord would give me the impression in his favor. The impression to me every time that I think of it is that he hardly fills the bill'in fact does not anywhere near do so'and when I ask myself the question, 'Shall I recommend him; we might just as well call him now as wait for the next conference,' the impression to me is, no.
The impression to choose Willard Smith, my son-in-law, so far as his great ability is concerned, his humility, his knowledge, his force of character, is yes, every time I think of it. But on the other hand I am perfectly willing to keep him where he is, because he is working for a great bank. ... and the fact that he is my son-in-law might handicap him if he were called to be the Presiding Patriarch.
Then I go to President Smith's family, and his grandson [i.e., Joseph F. Smith], the son of Hyrum M., is an outstanding young man, a splendid man, very much like his father, the same forceful character as his grandfather, inclined to be a little harsh in his talk sometimes ...
I do feel almost impressed that when you come home next time we must come to a decision about the Presiding Patriarch, the three of us, and tell the quorum of the Twelve what to do. If we finally decide, after prayer and fasting, to appoint Hyrum G. Smith's boy, it will be all well and good, but if not, and we do not decide on someone else instead, in that case I am going to wait until another conference.
[Heber J. Grant, Letter to J. Reuben Clark, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
120 years ago today - Nov 4, 1904; Friday
Referring to yours of the 1st inst., recommending Sister Harriet B. Rowberry for second
anointing, we would say that a woman cannot receive those blessings except in connection with her husband; and a man so indifferent to the ordinances of the House of the Lord as to neglect doing his own temple work in his lifetime, although, as you say, he might have done so had he been so inclined, can scarcely be considered worthy of second anointing and we do not see how you can consistently recommend him to receive those blessings.
For these reasons we have withheld your endorsement from the recommend sent by you in favor of Sister Rowberry.
[Joseph F. Smith, John R. Winder, and Anthon H. Lund to Thomas R. Bassett, LDS Archives]
anointing, we would say that a woman cannot receive those blessings except in connection with her husband; and a man so indifferent to the ordinances of the House of the Lord as to neglect doing his own temple work in his lifetime, although, as you say, he might have done so had he been so inclined, can scarcely be considered worthy of second anointing and we do not see how you can consistently recommend him to receive those blessings.
For these reasons we have withheld your endorsement from the recommend sent by you in favor of Sister Rowberry.
[Joseph F. Smith, John R. Winder, and Anthon H. Lund to Thomas R. Bassett, LDS Archives]
165 years ago today - Nov 4, 1859 (Council Meeting)
[Brigham Young Sermon]
.... The spirit world will be just as natural to us when we are there as this world is to us. If you grieve the spirit of a man it operates upon the body, and thus sickness and emaciation is produced. ... Our religion makes the whole world our enemies, but the time has come as the Savior observed, '"Let him who hath no sword sell his coat and buy one.'" and if we had not been able to help ourselves we should have been over-run with the enemies of this work. I told the mob that I was not as good a man as Joseph Smith and I would send to hell cross lots anyone that would attempt my life. I expect to see the time that the nations will have to come to me to get succor, for they will be in trouble. I had a dream I saw a mob, and I told them my bones ached to use them up, and that I would not have a thread of them. -- Salt Lake City
[Brigham Young Office Journals, Special Collections, Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan.; Archives, Church History Library, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah.; New Mormon Studies CD-ROM -- quoted in The Complete Discourses of Brigham Young, Ed. Richard S. Van Wagoner, Smith-Pettit Foundation, Salt Lake City (2009), http://bit.ly/BY-discourses]
.... The spirit world will be just as natural to us when we are there as this world is to us. If you grieve the spirit of a man it operates upon the body, and thus sickness and emaciation is produced. ... Our religion makes the whole world our enemies, but the time has come as the Savior observed, '"Let him who hath no sword sell his coat and buy one.'" and if we had not been able to help ourselves we should have been over-run with the enemies of this work. I told the mob that I was not as good a man as Joseph Smith and I would send to hell cross lots anyone that would attempt my life. I expect to see the time that the nations will have to come to me to get succor, for they will be in trouble. I had a dream I saw a mob, and I told them my bones ached to use them up, and that I would not have a thread of them. -- Salt Lake City
[Brigham Young Office Journals, Special Collections, Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan.; Archives, Church History Library, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah.; New Mormon Studies CD-ROM -- quoted in The Complete Discourses of Brigham Young, Ed. Richard S. Van Wagoner, Smith-Pettit Foundation, Salt Lake City (2009), http://bit.ly/BY-discourses]
180 years ago today - Nov 4, 1844
[Hosea Stout (four months after presidential candidate Joseph Smith's murder)]
Nov 4 M. Today was the Presidential election and the brethren all concluded to vote for Polk and Dallas for President and Vice President of the United States however, it was with peculiar feelings that I went to the polls. I thought of the man whom we had elected as the man of our choice for president of the United States: our Beloved Prophet Joseph Smith whose voice seemed yet to sound in the air, teaching this nation the way they might be saved and the means to pursue to avoid a disunion and overthrow of our Government. ...
[Diaries of Hosea Stout]
Nov 4 M. Today was the Presidential election and the brethren all concluded to vote for Polk and Dallas for President and Vice President of the United States however, it was with peculiar feelings that I went to the polls. I thought of the man whom we had elected as the man of our choice for president of the United States: our Beloved Prophet Joseph Smith whose voice seemed yet to sound in the air, teaching this nation the way they might be saved and the means to pursue to avoid a disunion and overthrow of our Government. ...
[Diaries of Hosea Stout]
115 years ago today - Nov 3, 1909; Wednesday
A letter was read from President Thomas E. McKay of the Swiss and German Mission, in which he speaks of the persecution and banishment of six elders from Berlin [Germany]. ...
Letters were read from Elders C. Fred Wilcox and Joseph Kuntz, missionaries in Switzerland, addressed to Elder James E. Talmage, in which reference is made to a probable opportunity of introducing the gospel into Russia. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
Letters were read from Elders C. Fred Wilcox and Joseph Kuntz, missionaries in Switzerland, addressed to Elder James E. Talmage, in which reference is made to a probable opportunity of introducing the gospel into Russia. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
115 years ago today - Nov 3, 1909
[Apostle George Albert Smith]
- left SLC for St. George to rest, and "I remained in bed until about the 1st of May when I had my clothes brought to me and dressed for the first time in over five months. ...I had two or three bad sinking spells and was so weak at times that the exertion of arranging my bed clothes would cause a nervous chill." -returned to SLC ca May 8th, 1910
[Journals of George Albert Smith]
- left SLC for St. George to rest, and "I remained in bed until about the 1st of May when I had my clothes brought to me and dressed for the first time in over five months. ...I had two or three bad sinking spells and was so weak at times that the exertion of arranging my bed clothes would cause a nervous chill." -returned to SLC ca May 8th, 1910
[Journals of George Albert Smith]
125 years ago today - Nov 3, 1899; Friday
President Lorenzo Snow was at the office, where he met a Mr. Smith, a correspondent of the Cincinnati Times ... President Snow told the gentleman that the Church had nothing whatever to do with the election of [B. H.] Roberts; and he also told him that the Church had ceased to solemnize plural marriages, that none had been performed by the Church, or with its sanction, since he became its President, and would not be.
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
140 years ago today - Nov 3, 1884 (Monday)
In the Third District Court (Judge Zane), Rudger Clawson was sentenced to four years' imprisonment and $800 fine for polygamy and unlawful cohabitation. The case was appealed, but bail was refused and Clawson taken to the Penitentiary. [Clawson would later be called to the Quorum of Twelve and later the First Presidency.]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
125 years ago today - Nov 3, 1899; Friday
President Lorenzo Snow was at the office, where he met a Mr. Smith, a correspondent of the Cincinnati Times ... President Snow told the gentleman that the Church had nothing whatever to do with the election of [B. H.] Roberts; and he also told him that the Church had ceased to solemnize plural marriages, that none had been performed by the Church, or with its sanction, since he became its President, and would not be.
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
140 years ago today - Nov 3, 1884 (Monday)
In the Third District Court (Judge Zane), Rudger Clawson was sentenced to four years' imprisonment and $800 fine for polygamy and unlawful cohabitation. The case was appealed, but bail was refused and Clawson taken to the Penitentiary. [Clawson would later be called to the Quorum of Twelve and later the First Presidency.]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
20 years ago today - Nov 2, 2004
[Same-sex Marriage]
Utah Voters approve Amendment 3 to the Utah Constitution. The amendment states that marriage consists of only the legal union between a man and a woman.
[Herald Extra, "LDS Church: No gay marriages in meetinghouses", http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lds-church-no-gay-marriages-in-meetinghouses/article_9115817b-5e81-5e2f-b1e7-692843870e5d.html]
Utah Voters approve Amendment 3 to the Utah Constitution. The amendment states that marriage consists of only the legal union between a man and a woman.
[Herald Extra, "LDS Church: No gay marriages in meetinghouses", http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lds-church-no-gay-marriages-in-meetinghouses/article_9115817b-5e81-5e2f-b1e7-692843870e5d.html]
125 years ago today - Nov 2, 1899; Thursday
President Snow inquired why prayer circles had ceased with the Council. No reason was assigned for their discontinuance, except that it had become inconvenient for President [Wilford] Woodruff to clothe, and the custom had gradually been laid aside. President Snow thought that the Council should resume its prayer circle, and it was the feeling of all present that this should be done. ...
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
135 years ago today - Nov 2, 1889 (Saturday)
Truman O. Angell [Temple Architect] was arrested in Salt Lake City, for u.c. [Unlawful Cohabitation, I.E. living with a polygamous wife]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
20 years ago today - Nov 2, 2004
[Same-sex Marriage]
Utah Voters approve Amendment 3 to the Utah Constitution. The amendment states that marriage consists of only the legal union between a man and a woman.
[Herald Extra, "LDS Church: No gay marriages in meetinghouses", http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lds-church-no-gay-marriages-in-meetinghouses/article_9115817b-5e81-5e2f-b1e7-692843870e5d.html]
Utah Voters approve Amendment 3 to the Utah Constitution. The amendment states that marriage consists of only the legal union between a man and a woman.
[Herald Extra, "LDS Church: No gay marriages in meetinghouses", http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lds-church-no-gay-marriages-in-meetinghouses/article_9115817b-5e81-5e2f-b1e7-692843870e5d.html]
35 years ago today - Nov 1, 1989
The announcement that full-time female missionaries will be only guides for traditional tours of Temple Square, Salt Lake City.
[The Mormon Hierarchy - Extensions of Power by D. Michael Quinn, [New Mormon History database ( http://bit.ly/NMHdatabase )]]
[The Mormon Hierarchy - Extensions of Power by D. Michael Quinn, [New Mormon History database ( http://bit.ly/NMHdatabase )]]
35 years ago today - Nov 1, 1989
Announcement that full-time female missionaries will be only guides for traditional tours of Temple Square, Salt Lake City.
45 years ago today - Nov 1, 1979-Thursday
[Leonard Arrington]
Peggy Fletcher, representing the Sunstone Foundation, has been planning the publication of a photographic history of the Church. People cooperating with her include [archivists] Jeff Johnson, Randy Dixon, and others. She asked me to write the introduction to the volume. I told her I would have to secure the approval of Brother [G. Homer] Durham. I asked him in our meeting this morning about it and he counseled me against it.
[Confessions of a Mormon historian : the diaries of Leonard J. Arrington, 1971-1997, Gary James Bergera, editor, Signature Books, 2018]
Peggy Fletcher, representing the Sunstone Foundation, has been planning the publication of a photographic history of the Church. People cooperating with her include [archivists] Jeff Johnson, Randy Dixon, and others. She asked me to write the introduction to the volume. I told her I would have to secure the approval of Brother [G. Homer] Durham. I asked him in our meeting this morning about it and he counseled me against it.
[Confessions of a Mormon historian : the diaries of Leonard J. Arrington, 1971-1997, Gary James Bergera, editor, Signature Books, 2018]
180 years ago today - Nov 1, 1844
[Apostle Wilford Woodruff]
I had a peculiar dream last night one that is unutterable & Cannot be written for I cannot comprehend it all myself. I was called to hold the keys of the kingdom of God in all the world with the quorum of the Twelve & traveld with them over much of the world, & finally traveld through many countries alone & when I got through I saw many things I cannot write but in the end Br Joseph Smith Assisted me to come into the place whare he was and Pointed out my work, portion, & labour. I immediately entered into the duties assigned me.
I also had another dream. Was in the Presence of Br Joseph Smith. Was conversing about his death. Told him I felt bad about it & If I had known he would have been taken away so soon I should have conversed more with him & asked him more questions. Said it was not his fault that I did not. Speaking of my work & duties said I had better get a dozen to help me.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
I had a peculiar dream last night one that is unutterable & Cannot be written for I cannot comprehend it all myself. I was called to hold the keys of the kingdom of God in all the world with the quorum of the Twelve & traveld with them over much of the world, & finally traveld through many countries alone & when I got through I saw many things I cannot write but in the end Br Joseph Smith Assisted me to come into the place whare he was and Pointed out my work, portion, & labour. I immediately entered into the duties assigned me.
I also had another dream. Was in the Presence of Br Joseph Smith. Was conversing about his death. Told him I felt bad about it & If I had known he would have been taken away so soon I should have conversed more with him & asked him more questions. Said it was not his fault that I did not. Speaking of my work & duties said I had better get a dozen to help me.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
95 years ago today - Oct 31, 1929
[President Heber J. Grant]
Dr. Fred Clawson called and asked permission to give a recommend to John A. Groesbeck and his wife to witness the marriage of their daughter. I told him I would give him an answer later in the day. John is a full-tithe-pager and has been for years, but on account of the use of tobacco has never had a recommend to the temple. I think he is a man of absolute honesty and integrity, and personally I have no objection to his witnessing the marriage of his daughter in the temple. [Note: later he, David O. McKay, George F. Richards, and Stephen L. Richards approve the action.]
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
Dr. Fred Clawson called and asked permission to give a recommend to John A. Groesbeck and his wife to witness the marriage of their daughter. I told him I would give him an answer later in the day. John is a full-tithe-pager and has been for years, but on account of the use of tobacco has never had a recommend to the temple. I think he is a man of absolute honesty and integrity, and personally I have no objection to his witnessing the marriage of his daughter in the temple. [Note: later he, David O. McKay, George F. Richards, and Stephen L. Richards approve the action.]
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
170 years ago today - Oct 31, 1854
Public reading of written revelation to Brigham Young "directing him to sell the Church property here and move south with the Church." Text unavailable.
[The Mormon Hierarchy - Extensions of Power by D. Michael Quinn, [New Mormon History database ( http://bit.ly/NMHdatabase )]]
[The Mormon Hierarchy - Extensions of Power by D. Michael Quinn, [New Mormon History database ( http://bit.ly/NMHdatabase )]]
180 years ago today - 31st [Oct 1844]
[Letter from Govr. Thos. Ford to Lieut Genl Brigham Young State of Illinois]
.... To Lieutenant- General Brigham Young of the Nauvoo Legion
Sir
It may be probable that there may be further disturbances in Hancock County by those apposed to the prosecutions against the murderers of Joseph and Hyrum Smith. They may combine together in arms to subvert justice and prevent those prosecutions from going on. They may also attack or resist the civil authorities of the State in that county and they may attack some of the settlements or people there with violence.
The sherriff of the county may want a military force to guard the court and protect it or its officers or the jurors thereof or the witnesses attending court from the violence of a mob.
In all these cases you are hereby ordered and directed to hold in readiness a sufficient force under your command of the Nauvoo Legion to act under the direction of the said sherriff for the purposes aforesaid; and also to suppress mobs which may be collected in said county to injure the persons or property of any of the citizens.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of state the day and year first herein above written. Thos Ford, Governor & Commander-in-Chief.
[Brigham Young Journal # 4 in the handwriting of: William Clayton, Evan Greene, John D. Lee, Willard Richards. First person account kept by others. 'Lieut. Genl Brigham Young's Journal 1844']
.... To Lieutenant- General Brigham Young of the Nauvoo Legion
Sir
It may be probable that there may be further disturbances in Hancock County by those apposed to the prosecutions against the murderers of Joseph and Hyrum Smith. They may combine together in arms to subvert justice and prevent those prosecutions from going on. They may also attack or resist the civil authorities of the State in that county and they may attack some of the settlements or people there with violence.
The sherriff of the county may want a military force to guard the court and protect it or its officers or the jurors thereof or the witnesses attending court from the violence of a mob.
In all these cases you are hereby ordered and directed to hold in readiness a sufficient force under your command of the Nauvoo Legion to act under the direction of the said sherriff for the purposes aforesaid; and also to suppress mobs which may be collected in said county to injure the persons or property of any of the citizens.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of state the day and year first herein above written. Thos Ford, Governor & Commander-in-Chief.
[Brigham Young Journal # 4 in the handwriting of: William Clayton, Evan Greene, John D. Lee, Willard Richards. First person account kept by others. 'Lieut. Genl Brigham Young's Journal 1844']
180 years ago today - Oct 31, 1844
Brigham Young (aged 43) marriage to Susanne Snively (1815-1892) (aged 29) her first marriage
[Wikipedia, List of Brigham Young's Wives, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brigham_Young%27s_wives]
[Wikipedia, List of Brigham Young's Wives, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brigham_Young%27s_wives]
120 years ago today - Oct 30, 1904
[Thomas A. Clawson Diary]
"Came home with Bro Hamilton G. Park and he told me a little incident in his life when he was with Heber C Kimball which gave the key to Henry Lawrence's apostasy. It began by his taking advantage of the people and charging them outrageojs prices for goods making as high a [as] 15 hundred per cent. Heber C Kimball told him what he was doing and that if he did not repent in sack cloth and ashes that he would lose the spirit--apostatize and go to hell. All of which came true."
[Diary Excerpts of Thomas A. Clawson, Signature Books Library, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
"Came home with Bro Hamilton G. Park and he told me a little incident in his life when he was with Heber C Kimball which gave the key to Henry Lawrence's apostasy. It began by his taking advantage of the people and charging them outrageojs prices for goods making as high a [as] 15 hundred per cent. Heber C Kimball told him what he was doing and that if he did not repent in sack cloth and ashes that he would lose the spirit--apostatize and go to hell. All of which came true."
[Diary Excerpts of Thomas A. Clawson, Signature Books Library, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
135 years ago today - Oct 30, 1889 (Wednesday)
In the Third District Court, Salt Lake City, William C. Dunbar was refused citizenship because he believed in polygamy. Elder Dunbar had lost his citizen's papers, which he obtained many years before.
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
160 years ago today - Oct 30, 1864
[Brigham Young Sermon]
Some may think the brethren and sisters are backsliding and growing cold, when they do not attend meeting. It may sometimes be just as good and profitable to stay at home as to come to meeting. ... And many who do not attend to the worship of God here may be just as fervent, and humble in their spirits, and trying to live as uprightly before God at home as those who attend religious meetings. I do not think the people are forgetful of God and of their obligations to him because they tarry at home. ... I do not believe that those who stay at home are, in many instances, any worse than those who come to meetings, nor that those who come to meeting are particularly better than those who stay at home...
When any man lifts himself up in his philosophy, and wonders why we do not talk about this, and that, and the other thing that we do not wish to talk about, what does he know of the results that would follow from communicating principles to this people which they are not prepared to receive? I do not know that it would not be as Joseph once remarked:'" Said he, '"If I were to tell the people what I knew of the kingdom of God, there is not a man nor woman that would stay with me.'" Said I, '"Do not reveal anything to me then, I do not wish to apostatize.'" If the Lord were to reveal many things to this people now, which will be made known in the future, they could not abide them,'"they have not capacity at the present to receive them....
[Journal of Discourses. Liverpool, England, 1853-86. 10:349-352; Deseret News. Also Deseret Evening News, Deseret News Weekly, Deseret News Semi- Weekly, and Deseret News Extra, Salt Lake City as quoted in The Complete Discourses of Brigham Young, Ed. Richard S. Van Wagoner, Smith-Pettit Foundation, Salt Lake City (2009), http://bit.ly/BY-discourses]
Some may think the brethren and sisters are backsliding and growing cold, when they do not attend meeting. It may sometimes be just as good and profitable to stay at home as to come to meeting. ... And many who do not attend to the worship of God here may be just as fervent, and humble in their spirits, and trying to live as uprightly before God at home as those who attend religious meetings. I do not think the people are forgetful of God and of their obligations to him because they tarry at home. ... I do not believe that those who stay at home are, in many instances, any worse than those who come to meetings, nor that those who come to meeting are particularly better than those who stay at home...
When any man lifts himself up in his philosophy, and wonders why we do not talk about this, and that, and the other thing that we do not wish to talk about, what does he know of the results that would follow from communicating principles to this people which they are not prepared to receive? I do not know that it would not be as Joseph once remarked:'" Said he, '"If I were to tell the people what I knew of the kingdom of God, there is not a man nor woman that would stay with me.'" Said I, '"Do not reveal anything to me then, I do not wish to apostatize.'" If the Lord were to reveal many things to this people now, which will be made known in the future, they could not abide them,'"they have not capacity at the present to receive them....
[Journal of Discourses. Liverpool, England, 1853-86. 10:349-352; Deseret News. Also Deseret Evening News, Deseret News Weekly, Deseret News Semi- Weekly, and Deseret News Extra, Salt Lake City as quoted in The Complete Discourses of Brigham Young, Ed. Richard S. Van Wagoner, Smith-Pettit Foundation, Salt Lake City (2009), http://bit.ly/BY-discourses]
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